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Post by Chahta on Mar 22, 2021 14:39:37 GMT
This caught me by surprise. Maybe Norbert has been hearing this. Are we headed for another surge of COVID? Evidently the EU is falling behind vaccinating. Makes the US look good.
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Post by Norbert on Mar 22, 2021 15:16:40 GMT
I'm still in Greece, where you have to be 75+ years old to get vaccinated. The EU insisted on a centralized approach to vaccine purchases, but failed to order early. So, there's little vaccine available and lockdowns are necessary again. It's a mess. Meanwhile, the UK, US, and Israel are making excellent progress getting citizens vaccinated and reducing the threat of variants / mutations. The EU leadership is trying to blame everyone except themselves for the situation, resulting in growing political tension. Sigh.
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Post by Chahta on Mar 22, 2021 16:14:58 GMT
Hopefully we don’t see a third wave here.
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Post by rhythmmethod on Mar 22, 2021 18:53:59 GMT
Not sure about the anti-vaccers in the US. I think there are plenty My sister is one. I have no idea how this will impact the summer/fall. Might be something to watch?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 20:02:11 GMT
New York now has a new CV-19 variant named after it and spreading there and elsewhere.
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Post by anitya on Mar 22, 2021 20:47:36 GMT
Not sure why but different states seem to vaccinate at different speeds in terms of the age groups being currently vaccinated. In NY everybody 50 and above is eligible. In CA everybody 65 and above is eligible. Is there a website that would tell us about the vaccine status for all the US States - just as there are websites providing Covid case information?
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Post by yogibearbull on Mar 22, 2021 20:58:34 GMT
I wonder about that too. For example, AK, OH, TN, etc have larger vaccination eligibility that, say, IL. If national distribution of vaccines is based on populations of states, then this shouldn't be.
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Post by anitya on Mar 22, 2021 21:47:21 GMT
Not sure about the anti-vaccers in the US. I think there are plenty My sister is one. I have no idea how this will impact the summer/fall. Might be something to watch? It is very interesting to see many people not waiting for their turn and jump the line to get vaccinated - I personally know too many - while there seems to be plenty of anti-vaccers. For the moment, while there are still wannabe line jumpers, the anti-vaccers are not a problem if they also do not exhibit other risk transfer behavior. While I have an understanding of the mind-set of the line jumpers, I have no clue what the anti-vaccers' thought process is and may be somebody could share so I can educate myself while waiting my turn. P.S.: In a few months airlines will require a vaccine certificate to be able to travel at least internationally. Qantas already said they will. To increase domestic revenue they might require it for domestic travel as well.
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Post by anitya on Mar 23, 2021 6:36:16 GMT
I wonder about that too. For example, AK, OH, TN, etc have larger vaccination eligibility that, say, IL. If national distribution of vaccines is based on populations of states, then this shouldn't be. Evidently, in Mississippi and Alaska anybody 16 & above is currently eligible for vaccine. In CA anybody incarcerated, irrespective of age, is eligible for the vaccine. Law enforcement were eligible in the first category 2-3 months ago.
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Post by anitya on Mar 23, 2021 7:33:33 GMT
March 23, 2020 is the pandemic stock market bottom. Celebrate surviving the fall and regaining your portfolio. While the balances may be higher, in terms of real dollars and purchasing power, our portfolios are currently smaller than they appear to be but hopefully higher than pre-pandemic.
Lots of people probably aged more than a year in the past year. Hopefully, they can engage in activities now to undo some of the mental and physical damage sustained. Good luck to all!
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Post by Chahta on Mar 23, 2021 11:27:42 GMT
Not sure about the anti-vaccers in the US. I think there are plenty My sister is one. I have no idea how this will impact the summer/fall. Might be something to watch? I think they will get a free ride and not get infected due to those of us getting vaccinated. Herd immunity does not require all to be vaccinated.
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Post by Chahta on Mar 23, 2021 11:32:29 GMT
Not sure about the anti-vaccers in the US. I think there are plenty My sister is one. I have no idea how this will impact the summer/fall. Might be something to watch? It is very interesting to see many people not waiting for their turn and jump the line to get vaccinated - I personally know too many - while there seems to be plenty of anti-vaccers. For the moment, while there are still wannabe line jumpers, the anti-vaccers are not a problem if they also do not exhibit other risk transfer behavior. While I have an understanding of the mind-set of the line jumpers, I have no clue what the anti-vaccers' thought process is and may be somebody could share so I can educate myself while waiting my turn. P.S.: In a few months airlines will require a vaccine certificate to be able to travel at least internationally. Qantas already said they will. To increase domestic revenue they might require it for domestic travel as well. There are many gullible people. Political campaigns run on gullibility and the vaccine "campaign" is similar. Having said that some have twisted mRNA into something that changes a persons DNA and pass ignorant info on to others.
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Post by Chahta on Mar 23, 2021 11:39:19 GMT
I wonder about that too. For example, AK, OH, TN, etc have larger vaccination eligibility that, say, IL. If national distribution of vaccines is based on populations of states, then this shouldn't be. TN has one of the lowest vaccinated populations in the country, AK one of the highest. LINK
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Post by FD1000 on Mar 23, 2021 17:30:47 GMT
Many European countries have been falling behind for years, the new world is moving much faster in the last 2 decades.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 18:00:34 GMT
California - there is vaccine shortage specially in dense areas. Hoping that in 2-3 weeks we can start getting appointments.
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Post by anitya on Mar 23, 2021 18:38:07 GMT
Thanks, Chahta.
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Post by Chahta on Mar 23, 2021 20:39:57 GMT
Many European countries have been falling behind for years, the new world is moving much faster in the last 2 decades. They are behind and fighting amongst themselves for vaccine. In my mind the EU was a failure. Only the UK gets it.
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Post by rhythmmethod on Mar 23, 2021 21:16:33 GMT
Not sure about the anti-vaccers in the US. I think there are plenty My sister is one. I have no idea how this will impact the summer/fall. Might be something to watch? It is very interesting to see many people not waiting for their turn and jump the line to get vaccinated - I personally know too many - while there seems to be plenty of anti-vaccers. For the moment, while there are still wannabe line jumpers, the anti-vaccers are not a problem if they also do not exhibit other risk transfer behavior. While I have an understanding of the mind-set of the line jumpers, I have no clue what the anti-vaccers' thought process is and may be somebody could share so I can educate myself while waiting my turn. P.S.: In a few months airlines will require a vaccine certificate to be able to travel at least internationally. Qantas already said they will. To increase domestic revenue they might require it for domestic travel as well. Sorry, I've been out of pocket recently. Super busy with work and then my computer died. ;-/ There are variety of reasons for the 'anti-vaccers' thought process, IMO. Some with legit health concerns from vacs in the past. Some of population that thinks the election was stolen also believe COVID is a manufacture of the left. Safe to say that they probably aren't wearing masks or distancing. Is it enough to tilt the scales? I don't know but might bear watching as variants progress. Something tells me there might be some kind of surprise that doesn't fit into the picture perfect re-opening. Take care.
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Post by anitya on Mar 23, 2021 21:30:10 GMT
Thanks, RM.
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Post by steadyeddy on Mar 23, 2021 22:45:30 GMT
In GA, everyone 16+ is eligible for vaccines starting this Thursday 3/25. A southeastern grocery chain [Publix] has been giving vaccines to anyone if they sign up online. In fact, mass vaccine sites are now operational with hundreds if not thousands getting vaccines everyday.
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Post by steadyeddy on Mar 23, 2021 22:54:17 GMT
Not sure about the anti-vaccers in the US. I think there are plenty My sister is one. I have no idea how this will impact the summer/fall. Might be something to watch? I think they will get a free ride and not get infected due to those of us getting vaccinated. Herd immunity does not require all to be vaccinated. Chahta, I think people that are vaccinated can still be asymptomatic carriers of the virus - so those that are vaccinated could still be at risk from those of us that got the vaccine.
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Post by Chahta on Mar 23, 2021 23:07:27 GMT
I think they will get a free ride and not get infected due to those of us getting vaccinated. Herd immunity does not require all to be vaccinated. Chahta , I think people that are vaccinated can still be asymptomatic carriers of the virus - so those that are vaccinated could still be at risk from those of us that got the vaccine. True, but I look at it the same way as the flu. Not everyone gets vaccinated but the flu is kept in check.
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Post by Mustang on Mar 23, 2021 23:49:52 GMT
I think they will get a free ride and not get infected due to those of us getting vaccinated. Herd immunity does not require all to be vaccinated. Chahta , I think people that are vaccinated can still be asymptomatic carriers of the virus - so those that are vaccinated could still be at risk from those of us that got the vaccine. I'm not sure that is correct. There seems to be a word missing. I believe it should say those that are not vaccinated could still be at risk from those of us that got the vaccine. I'm not a doctor so this is pure speculation but I would think the risk would be small or else there would be no such thing as herd immunity. I suppose a person could have contact with the virus then immediately pass it on to someone not vaccinated before it died out on them but since the vaccinated person's immunity system keeps it from replicating the chance would be very small.
It is my understanding the test to see if someone has had COVID is a test for antibodies. There aren't any live viruses left.
My son was hospitalized with COVID-19 for several days. They treated him and released him. His sister picked him up. He was told he could go back to work as soon as his temperature was below 100 without medication for three days. Which he did. Three days after being released from the hospital he was back to work. His sister had to stay in quarantine for 14 days after picking him up even though she showed absolutely no signs of having the virus.
We have had other plagues such as polio, chicken pox, scarlet fever, etc. I've even been vaccinated for the black plague. Those who are vaccinated against those diseases don't walk around in fear of spreading them. So why is COVID so different?
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Post by steadyeddy on Mar 24, 2021 1:17:44 GMT
Chahta , I think people that are vaccinated can still be asymptomatic carriers of the virus - so those that are vaccinated could still be at risk from those of us that got the vaccine. I'm not sure that is correct. There seems to be a word missing. I believe it should say those that are not vaccinated could still be at risk from those of us that got the vaccine. I'm not a doctor so this is pure speculation but I would think the risk would be small or else there would be no such thing as herd immunity. I suppose a person could have contact with the virus then immediately pass it on to someone not vaccinated before it died out on them but since the vaccinated person's immunity system keeps it from replicating the chance would be very small.
It is my understanding the test to see if someone has had COVID is a test for antibodies. There aren't any live viruses left.
My son was hospitalized with COVID-19 for several days. They treated him and released him. His sister picked him up. He was told he could go back to work as soon as his temperature was below 100 without medication for three days. Which he did. Three days after being released from the hospital he was back to work. His sister had to stay in quarantine for 14 days after picking him up even though she showed absolutely no signs of having the virus.
We have had other plagues such as polio, chicken pox, scarlet fever, etc. I've even been vaccinated for the black plague. Those who are vaccinated against those diseases don't walk around in fear of spreading them. So why is COVID so different?
Mustang, I pray that your understanding is correct. There is so much inaccurate info about this. I heard on TV that folks that are vaccinated can still carry the virus and give it to others.
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Post by FD1000 on Mar 24, 2021 12:55:44 GMT
It is very interesting to see many people not waiting for their turn and jump the line to get vaccinated - I personally know too many - while there seems to be plenty of anti-vaccers. For the moment, while there are still wannabe line jumpers, the anti-vaccers are not a problem if they also do not exhibit other risk transfer behavior. While I have an understanding of the mind-set of the line jumpers, I have no clue what the anti-vaccers' thought process is and may be somebody could share so I can educate myself while waiting my turn. P.S.: In a few months airlines will require a vaccine certificate to be able to travel at least internationally. Qantas already said they will. To increase domestic revenue they might require it for domestic travel as well. Sorry, I've been out of pocket recently. Super busy with work and then my computer died. ;-/ There are variety of reasons for the 'anti-vaccers' thought process, IMO. Some with legit health concerns from vacs in the past. Some of population that thinks the election was stolen also believe COVID is a manufacture of the left. Safe to say that they probably aren't wearing masks or distancing. Is it enough to tilt the scales? I don't know but might bear watching as variants progress. Something tells me there might be some kind of surprise that doesn't fit into the picture perfect re-opening. Take care. COVID-19 came from China but most global leaders are afraid to go after China and why China have been the bully for so many years.
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Post by Mustang on Mar 24, 2021 14:05:06 GMT
I'm not sure that is correct. There seems to be a word missing. I believe it should say those that are not vaccinated could still be at risk from those of us that got the vaccine. I'm not a doctor so this is pure speculation but I would think the risk would be small or else there would be no such thing as herd immunity. I suppose a person could have contact with the virus then immediately pass it on to someone not vaccinated before it died out on them but since the vaccinated person's immunity system keeps it from replicating the chance would be very small.
It is my understanding the test to see if someone has had COVID is a test for antibodies. There aren't any live viruses left.
My son was hospitalized with COVID-19 for several days. They treated him and released him. His sister picked him up. He was told he could go back to work as soon as his temperature was below 100 without medication for three days. Which he did. Three days after being released from the hospital he was back to work. His sister had to stay in quarantine for 14 days after picking him up even though she showed absolutely no signs of having the virus.
We have had other plagues such as polio, chicken pox, scarlet fever, etc. I've even been vaccinated for the black plague. Those who are vaccinated against those diseases don't walk around in fear of spreading them. So why is COVID so different?
Mustang , I pray that your understanding is correct. There is so much inaccurate info about this. I heard on TV that folks that are vaccinated can still carry the virus and give it to others. I have heard that also but think about the scenario where that could happen. Someone with COVID would have to cough near a vaccinated person. They would have to breathe in the virus which doesn't do anything to them. If they were to sneeze or cough before their antibodies killed the virus then it would be possible for that sneeze to contain the virus. Just think about the odds of that happening. It just isn't very likely. Early on people thought that hard surfaces could transmit the virus. Lately I've been reading that studies have shown that the virus cannot live on hard surfaces yet everyone is still carrying hand sanitizers. The absolute worst thing that has happened is that politics started driving the narrative. Those that clammered we must follow the science and now ignoring it because the science no longer supports their preconceived opinions.
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Post by steadyeddy on Mar 24, 2021 16:14:53 GMT
Mustang , I pray that your understanding is correct. There is so much inaccurate info about this. I heard on TV that folks that are vaccinated can still carry the virus and give it to others. I have heard that also but think about the scenario where that could happen. Someone with COVID would have to cough near a vaccinated person. They would have to breathe in the virus which doesn't do anything to them. If they were to sneeze or cough before their antibodies killed the virus then it would be possible for that sneeze to contain the virus. Just think about the odds of that happening. It just isn't very likely. Early on people thought that hard surfaces could transmit the virus. Lately I've been reading that studies have shown that the virus cannot live on hard surfaces yet everyone is still carrying hand sanitizers. The absolute worst thing that has happened is that politics started driving the narrative. Those that clammered we must follow the science and now ignoring it because the science no longer supports their preconceived opinions. Let us all hope so.
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Post by rhythmmethod on Mar 24, 2021 16:21:11 GMT
Sorry, I've been out of pocket recently. Super busy with work and then my computer died. ;-/ There are variety of reasons for the 'anti-vaccers' thought process, IMO. Some with legit health concerns from vacs in the past. Some of population that thinks the election was stolen also believe COVID is a manufacture of the left. Safe to say that they probably aren't wearing masks or distancing. Is it enough to tilt the scales? I don't know but might bear watching as variants progress. Something tells me there might be some kind of surprise that doesn't fit into the picture perfect re-opening. Take care. COVID-19 came from China but most global leaders are afraid to go after China and why China have been the bully for so many years. May be. I don't wish to debate. My reply was regarding a question about anti-vaccers, not China being a bully.
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Post by richardsok on Jul 26, 2021 14:10:49 GMT
LIVING WITH NEW COVID VARIANTS
It's been a while since anyone has posted comments about COVID. I just came across an article in American Conservative that might apply to some of us. Fwiw, here are a couple of excerpts:
Perhaps it’s time to face a fact: You’re not going to booster shot or mask or “social” distance your way out of this. You’re going to be exposed to this virus, one way or another, like how in any other year you’re exposed to many other viruses. You can do whatever else you decide is prudent to do, supplement certain minerals , take a regimen of over-the-counter and overseas medications —but recognize that first and foremost your health as an organism reflects a state of biological dynamism and that panaceas are a myth. Thus, perhaps the primary thing you and I can do to improve our chances of beating Covid variants with minimal symptoms and spread is lose some weight.
A study from the CDC examining 540,667 adults hospitalized with Covid-19 from March of last year to March of this year found that about 95 percent had at least one underlying medical condition. Hypertension and disorders of lipid metabolism were the most frequent (about 50 percent each), whereas obesity (33 percent), certain experiences of diabetes, and anxiety disorders were the strongest risk factors for a severe or fatal hospitalization case of Covid-19.
Many people reported substantial weight gain during lockdowns this past year.
In fact, the lockdown lifestyle was, according to a study of the “cytokine storm” response to Covid infections available through the NIH, exactly the sort of thing that makes outcomes worse.
It's time to prescribe diet and exercise again.
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