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Post by bobfl on Dec 31, 2022 16:55:38 GMT
I believe that I read correctly, that landlines end in 2025, so I am looking at three options.
1. Voice over IP (VOIP) - can be your landline number. Phone calls come through the internet.
2. 5-phone wireless home set, similar to what I have, but ordered a new one that has "Link-to-Cell" on the base unit. So the cell is the source for incoming calls. No landline connection. Testing that today. Can move the landline number to a cell.
3. The final is a base unit that is like a cell phone (with antenna and no keys) but the home network is hooked up to that. Requires a separate cell phone line, but can be your former landline number.
Can anyone give me tips on any of these? Thanks
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Post by Capital on Dec 31, 2022 17:02:29 GMT
I believe that I read correctly, that landlines end in 2025, so I am looking at three options. 1. Voice over IP (VOIP) - can be your landline number. Phone calls come through the internet. 2. 5-phone wireless home set, similar to what I have, but ordered a new one have "Link-to-Cell" on the base unit. So the cell is the source for incoming calls. Testing that today. Can move the landline number to a cell. 3. The final is a base unit that is like a cell phone (with antenna and no keys) but the home network is hooked up to that. Requires a separate cell phone line, but can be your former landline number. Can anyone give me tips on any of these? Thanks I am a Comcast customer. My "landline" has come thru their line to my house for some time now as a part of my package. Also it is my understanding that your current provider will automatically convert your service to VOIP at the time that the copper wires are removed from service. |
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Post by fred495 on Dec 31, 2022 17:37:55 GMT
I believe that I read correctly, that landlines end in 2025, ...
Says who? News to me. Can you provide a source or a link to confirm?
My landline is via a fiber optic cable (Verizon FIOS), or are you talking only about copper cables?
Thanks,
Fred
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Post by Capital on Dec 31, 2022 18:37:40 GMT
I believe that I read correctly, that landlines end in 2025, ...
Says who? News to me. Can you provide a source or a link to confirm?
My landline is via a fiber optic cable (Verizon FIOS), or are you talking only about copper cables?
Thanks,
Fred
It's the copper wires that are being phased out. Most providers are doing this already. You already have what will be the future. |
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Post by steadyeddy on Dec 31, 2022 18:42:13 GMT
Says who? News to me. Can you provide a source or a link to confirm?
My landline is via a fiber optic cable (Verizon FIOS), or are you talking only about copper cables?
Thanks,
Fred
It's the copper wires that are being phased out. Most providers are doing this already. You already have what will be the future. The FCC has to relax the universal service feature in the Telecom Act (which has not occurred yet). Until then the copper wire based phone service needs to be supported by the local/incumbent telephone carriers. Of course, a consumer may choose not to use copper based phone line and instead choose a cable/fiber based phone line. As we all know the primary benefit of copper landline is that it does not require power at the home/premise.. and 911 calls provide the location most accurately. |
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Post by fred495 on Dec 31, 2022 18:52:27 GMT
It's the copper wires that are being phased out. Most providers are doing this already. You already have what will be the future.
Thanks for the clarification, Capital.
Much appreciated.
Fred
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Post by bobfl on Dec 31, 2022 19:47:44 GMT
Actually this story sums it up. www.ooma.com/business/traditional-copper-landlines-still-working-after-august-2022/So, no to the rumor it will end in 2022 or 2025 (except in England). But I will continue my search for a cheaper way to have a landline. Linking a cell phone to a home system (link to cell feature via Bluetooth), is cheapest for us because we have two cell phones we very seldom use. One of those cell phones will get the landline number. That way we can take a cell with the landline number anywhere. Second cheapest is a free VoIP line from ooma, just pay $7 taxes. Don't yet know the sound quality of either. |
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Post by steadyeddy on Dec 31, 2022 20:33:48 GMT
Actually this story sums it up. www.ooma.com/business/traditional-copper-landlines-still-working-after-august-2022/So, no to the rumor it will end in 2022 or 2025 (except in England). But I will continue my search for a cheaper way to have a landline. Linking a cell phone to a home system (link to cell feature via Bluetooth), is cheapest for us because we have two cell phones we very seldom use. One of those cell phones will get the landline number. That way we can take a cell with the landline number anywhere. Second cheapest is a free VoIP line from ooma, just pay $7 taxes. Don't yet know the sound quality of either. Landline's sound quality is bar none. |
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Post by bobfl on Dec 31, 2022 20:45:59 GMT
Actually this story sums it up. www.ooma.com/business/traditional-copper-landlines-still-working-after-august-2022/So, no to the rumor it will end in 2022 or 2025 (except in England). But I will continue my search for a cheaper way to have a landline. Linking a cell phone to a home system (link to cell feature via Bluetooth), is cheapest for us because we have two cell phones we very seldom use. One of those cell phones will get the landline number. That way we can take a cell with the landline number anywhere. Second cheapest is a free VoIP line from ooma, just pay $7 taxes. Don't yet know the sound quality of either. Landline's sound quality is bar none. That is what I also suspect. Will test the "link-to-cell" tomorrow when the new set gets charged up. I bought a 5 phone set but they sent a 4 phone set so I already have it scheduled for a return. Would like to test the ooma VoIP next. |
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Post by yogchapa on Dec 31, 2022 21:22:45 GMT
I have vonage voip.it has app also. so you have two number in one device.voice quality is great.
yog
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Post by habsui on Dec 31, 2022 22:03:58 GMT
Landline?
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Post by yogchapa on Dec 31, 2022 23:09:24 GMT
yes it on landline. it on fiber optic.can be on cable too. depend how you get your internet.
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Post by Mustang on Jan 1, 2023 0:25:53 GMT
I will continue my search for a cheaper way to have a landline. Linking a cell phone to a home system (link to cell feature via Bluetooth), is cheapest for us because we have two cell phones we very seldom use. One of those cell phones will get the landline number. That way we can take a cell with the landline number anywhere. Second cheapest is a free VoIP line from ooma, just pay $7 taxes. Don't yet know the sound quality of either. Because we lived in the country we lost our landline several years ago. Basically it went down and the company stopped fixing it. Verizon has a box with an antenna that will plug into the house phone wiring and operate all of the phones. We had our land line phone number transferred to it. Using the house wiring we have three old style phones using it. When we moved we took the box to the new house and plugged it in. It worked great. We also take it with us when we go on vacation but we have to also take one landline phone. The combo works like an antique cell phone. It costs $20 per month. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2023 2:36:04 GMT
Random info - The first phone I remember was a party line! That was in the 60s. My how things have changed!
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Post by Capital on Jan 1, 2023 12:06:27 GMT
Random info - The first phone I remember was a party line! That was in the 60s. My how things have changed! That I remember as well. Our first was a four-party line. We had the 3-ring answer. Three sharp and very quick rings. There was a tone the line made if one of the other sharing parties was listening in. There was always one nosy lady that listened to everyone's calls. My Mother knew her by name and would tell her to hang up the phone. LOL - could you imagine a cell phone on a party line!!! |
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Post by Chahta on Jan 1, 2023 13:00:16 GMT
Will the supply chain even provide rough fiber optic by 2025?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2023 13:18:55 GMT
I gave up the landline in 2014 when I moved. The robo and phishing calls were driving me crazy, and the carrier couldn't/didn't block them.
Just before I retired in 2009, our faculty tech assistant only owned a cellphone. She, likely in her forties but a heavy smoker, had a massive heart attack at work and was transported to the hospital. Co-workers had trouble contacting her family without a landline in her home. She passed away.
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Post by hondo on Jan 1, 2023 23:52:08 GMT
Actually this story sums it up. www.ooma.com/business/traditional-copper-landlines-still-working-after-august-2022/So, no to the rumor it will end in 2022 or 2025 (except in England). But I will continue my search for a cheaper way to have a landline. Linking a cell phone to a home system (link to cell feature via Bluetooth), is cheapest for us because we have two cell phones we very seldom use. One of those cell phones will get the landline number. That way we can take a cell with the landline number anywhere. Second cheapest is a free VoIP line from ooma, just pay $7 taxes. Don't yet know the sound quality of either. bobfl: Glad you brought up this subject. But how can ooma provide a free line? I think we all know there is nothing free. There must be a catch somewhere. Have you talked with them about this? Please let us know if you have.
You speak of linking a cell phone to a home system. Where could I find information about that?
I would like very much to get away from our ATT landline. I just don't like ATT, but do not want to use only cell phones around the house. It's much nicer to have several phones spread around the house.
By the way, Happy New Year!
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Post by hondo on Jan 1, 2023 23:58:58 GMT
Random info - The first phone I remember was a party line! That was in the 60s. My how things have changed! That I remember as well. Our first was a four-party line. We had the 3-ring answer. Three sharp and very quick rings. There was a tone the line made if one of the other sharing parties was listening in. There was always one nosy lady that listened to everyone's calls. My Mother knew her by name and would tell her to hang up the phone. LOL - could you imagine a cell phone on a party line!!! Yes, I also remember them. We had, if I remember correctly, a 8 party line. I think our ring was 2 longs-1 short.
And you are right, there was always someone listening in, likely more than one. Ahh, the good old days.  |
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Post by Mustang on Jan 2, 2023 0:39:51 GMT
You speak of linking a cell phone to a home system. Where could I find information about that?
I would like very much to get away from our ATT landline. I just don't like ATT, but do not want to use only cell phones around the house. It's much nicer to have several phones spread around the house.
By the way, Happy New Year!
Verizon has a box that connects to the house wiring allowing all phones in the house to be connected to the same cell phone number. I've been using one for years. |
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Post by roi2020 on Jan 2, 2023 1:35:53 GMT
Actually this story sums it up. www.ooma.com/business/traditional-copper-landlines-still-working-after-august-2022/So, no to the rumor it will end in 2022 or 2025 (except in England). But I will continue my search for a cheaper way to have a landline. Linking a cell phone to a home system (link to cell feature via Bluetooth), is cheapest for us because we have two cell phones we very seldom use. One of those cell phones will get the landline number. That way we can take a cell with the landline number anywhere. Second cheapest is a free VoIP line from ooma, just pay $7 taxes. Don't yet know the sound quality of either. bobfl: Glad you brought up this subject. But how can ooma provide a free line? I think we all know there is nothing free. There must be a catch somewhere. Have you talked with them about this? Please let us know if you have.
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Ooma customers need to purchase a base station.
Several models are available with the cheapest option being the Ooma Telo ($99.99 MSRP).
Phone service is free but customers will have to pay applicable monthly taxes and fees.
I paid $7.18/mo. in 2022 except for December which was $7.44.
The monthly taxes/fees will vary based on residence.
I've been a satisfied Ooma customer since at least 2016.Link
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Post by Capital on Jan 2, 2023 13:23:11 GMT
You speak of linking a cell phone to a home system. Where could I find information about that?
I would like very much to get away from our ATT landline. I just don't like ATT, but do not want to use only cell phones around the house. It's much nicer to have several phones spread around the house.
By the way, Happy New Year!
Verizon has a box that connects to the house wiring allowing all phones in the house to be connected to the same cell phone number. I've been using one for years. We have our "landline" thru our internet provider Comcast. It is VOIP and comes thru their cable that brings TV and internet. Their router has a phone connection that I plug into our existing phone lines. When I first hooked it up I was unable to get phone service to my other phones. What made it work was to disconnect the lines from AT&T in their outside connection box. I had been paying AT&T about $50 monthly for the line. Comcast did not increase my bill when I made the conversion. |
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Post by Chahta on Jan 2, 2023 14:53:51 GMT
Same here with Spectrum. However it is not a true landline. When the internet is down or power is out so is the line. The only true landline is powered by the phone company. So I removed spectrum and only have cell phones now. At least I have phone service (not great) when the internet is down.
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Post by FD1000 on Jan 2, 2023 15:04:23 GMT
We got rid of landline years ago. Then, we had OOMA for several years. The OOMA sound was good.
But, we got rid of OOMA too because we only used our cell phones.
Our alarm works on wireless connection, it's a bit more expensive but safer, after all, the thieves can cut an actual line.
Conclusion: technology marches on, get adapted or stay behind.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2023 15:27:50 GMT
My last landline phone 2011-April 2014 was necessary for the security system at the time. There were a couple of false alarm incidents when I was out-of-town, and the police were called and the municipality issued a fine. That along with the robos and fraudsters were enough.
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Post by Ultima Thule on Jan 2, 2023 15:43:41 GMT
My last landline phone 2011-April 2014 was necessary for the security system at the time. There were a couple of false alarm incidents when I was out-of-town, and the police were called and the municipality issued a fine. That along with the robos and fraudsters were enough. I did head this interface myself, not so many times ago.. Items lacking these landline #, where some IT-routers power-supplies... Generally concept was that someone, someday will found way to crack company (Asset Cracking Smelter) IT-gadgets. Only way to limit damages, is shut everything down, on those almost controlled scenarios.. Therefore, there was landline modem on every power-supply of every router. So simply making call with any rotary phone on this planet so certain #, would give order to those power-supplies to shut themself down.. |
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Post by hondo on Jan 2, 2023 17:53:32 GMT
Mustang: Thanks for the info. Sounds like something I could use. I use Pure Talk for our cell service and will see if they offer the service you mentioned.
roi2020: Thanks roi for your reply. I was wondering if the 'free' service would end after a certain time, say 1 year, but you have been withe them since 2016. I will be looking into Ooma.
Capital: Thank you also for the info. I have found out that my internet provider also offers VOIP and I will be talking to them about it.
This has been a very informative thread.
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Post by bobfl on Jan 3, 2023 16:34:06 GMT
Hondo, Sorry I did not get back with answers. Thanks to everyone who did. I am still experimenting.
I completed my test using "link to cell".
How it works:
1. I bought another multi-phone set. I currently have a base connected to a landline. The incoming calls ring on 5 handsets connected to that base. It is an old ATT set that doesn't have Bluetooth "link to cell". So I ordered another set by Panasonic that has that option.
I linked the cell to the Panasonic phone base and called that cell number. The sound was bad!! on the Panasonic handsets that got the call via the "link to cell". So I tested calling multiple ways and concluded it was the "link to cell" that was messing up the sound. Maybe just for the Panasonic brand, who knows? I will not test other brands.
So on to the next test, the Ooma. Based on comments here (which I appreciate) Ooma could be good. But just to be safe, I will get one of their devices and one of their numbers and if Ooma works I will switch my landline number to their line.
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Post by archer on Jan 3, 2023 17:03:44 GMT
I never knew there were party lines of more than 2. I guess people didn't have long conversations back in the day. Does anyone remember what their 6 digit number was? I don't remember our family every having less than 7, but I was aware at the time that others did, and remember radio advertisements that included the 2 letters and 4 digits.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2023 17:37:59 GMT
I never knew there were party lines of more than 2. I guess people didn't have long conversations back in the day. Does anyone remember what their 6 digit number was? I don't remember our family every having less than 7, but I was aware at the time that others did, and remember radio advertisements that included the 2 letters and 4 digits. My parents at some point in Miami had a four then a two party line phone. The exchange was NEwton. I don't remember the numbers, but I do remember the house street address. |
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