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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 23:29:40 GMT
Is it worth upgrading from the free version to block junk and phishing? The cost is about $7 per month.
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Post by ECE Prof on Dec 1, 2022 1:23:31 GMT
Is it worth upgrading from the free version to block junk and phishing? The cost is about $7 per month. I have three outlook and 3 gmail accounts for different purposes. Free Outlook mails can be used to junk the phishing emails and then block the senders too. There are settings available for this. I not only junked the email from credit Karma and blocked the sender today. In fact, Credit Karma has my e-mail. I get all the info from my credit cards. I do not need Credit Karma to tell me anything new. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2022 3:44:52 GMT
From where I sit, Yes, the upgrade was worth it for me.
I now experience a reasonably good job in the blocking that you asked about. I'm using Outlook via Microsoft 365 on Win11 22H2 as I need a reliable and robust product and also other features such as multi-computer support.
But as for you and your circumstances, at this distance .... who knows what your best solution is? Opinions (including about investment actions) mean nothing, only factual info is of help.
edited to add a few words in frustration at being drawn into yet another pointless thread. My bad.
--- Frank
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2022 14:46:52 GMT
@fpajerski, ECE Prof, Thanks for your comments. I am thinking to upgrade. Despite setting rules, spam and phishing are still a problem with the free version. |
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Post by FD1000 on Dec 1, 2022 21:47:56 GMT
Here is my LT response in the past and the future. I don't mind paying for software once, I will never pay for a subscription for my personal use, even $10 per year. This concept introduced years ago by smart salesman. It doesn't work on me, never did, never will. Convince me, why I need outlook or Microsoft 365?  Our last laptops are from 2018, I don't use any of these. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2022 0:07:09 GMT
This evening I started the change to premium email and while reading the disclosures saw that synced email accounts are not security protected, and I have two of those. My daughter is back in town and maybe she can help.
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Post by ECE Prof on Dec 2, 2022 0:32:02 GMT
This evening I started the change to premium email and while reading the disclosures saw that synced email accounts are not security protected, and I have two of those. My daughter is back in town and maybe she can help. I have been very close to being robbed by security risks—Chrome and Edge. I use only FF. All my email logins, account logins (FIDO, Vanguard, Chase, Amazon, Capital One,..) require 2 FA, and I need to get a code in my phone(s) and be able to log in. It is a free service. Get a cheap phone, and it costs only $10/month for unlimited calls and texts, and 1 GB data. I do not need data because I have unlimited data from the internet. But, what the heck? I have $40/month full service T-Mobile with an iPhone. T-Mobile has a satellite near my home in the hill, somewhere here. |
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Post by Fearchar on Dec 2, 2022 0:50:38 GMT
Use 2 FA for security. I have been very close to being robbed by security risks—Chrome and Edge. , Could you elaborate on how you were close to being robbed by security risks? Thank-you |
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Post by liftlock on Dec 2, 2022 1:21:00 GMT
One thing I am beginning to dislike about Outlook.com email is that they have started to force me to store outbound email attachments in OneDrive or whatever it is called. I used to be able just attach a file to an outbound email but now they are forcing a link to a file stored in my OneDrive. I may have to switch email providers if I cant find a way around this.
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Post by ECE Prof on Dec 2, 2022 1:41:04 GMT
Use 2 FA for security. I have been very close to being robbed by security risks—Chrome and Edge. , Could you elaborate on how you were close to being robbed by security risks? Thank-you One day, I received an e-mail from Amazon around 11PM (CDT) that someone is tried to log in using Chrome from South Carolina. I was using Chrome for a while to link to my Android phone. Somebody stole my account details of many of my accounts (including my TN State retirement account). Of course, some bank accounts, too. Fortunately, not my Vanguard accounts. So, I got alerts from everywhere and went back to FF and changed all my passwords. Fidelity was the hard one. They asked me to check my computer for virus from a professional. I did. There was none. The reason is: I use AVG ultimate and live. I explained to Fidelity. Then, they created a new account and moved everything to the new account. Then, I forgot to delete the saved passwords in the Edge. So, a few months later, they tried again because the EDGE is also leaky. MSFT controls you, you do not control MSFT. Now, I use only Firefox where I use their password manager that you control, not Firefox. In fact, I set up a new computer today and could not get my passwords transferred there. I do not need because that computer will be connected to the TV using my homework without any cable to watch streaming services (the future). I already have several channels free streaming services, like ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CNN, and some other stuff—all free. We are paying Cable service only for internet and not TV anymore. Technology kills its own inventions, and that is what I did to make a living in my working years here and elsewhere, i.e. to kill my own previous electronic circuit with a new electronic circuit.
Now you should know why NASDAQ went down so much and so quickly.
Add/Edit: We get a lot of entertainment in my mother tongue from the days of my growing up – all free from YouTube. My wife watches her soaps too. We do not need even a big screen TV anymore – I have 4 Samsung QLED sitting in my house. You can use your phone and watch everything, just 12-18 inches away. Yet, I bought the new computer to stream to TV, although the TV also has several Apps.
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Post by habsui on Dec 2, 2022 2:09:05 GMT
ECE Prof , Could you elaborate on how you were close to being robbed by security risks? Thank-you One day, I received an e-mail from Amazon around 11PM (CDT) that someone is tried to log in using Chrome from South Carolina. I was using Chrome for a while to link to my Android phone. Somebody stole my account details of many of my accounts (including my TN State retirement account). Of course, some bank accounts, too. Fortunately, not my Vanguard accounts. So, I got alerts from everywhere and went back to FF and changed all my passwords. Fidelity was the hard one. They asked me to check my computer for virus from a professional. I did. There was none. The reason is: I use AVG ultimate and live. I explained to Fidelity. Then, they created a new account and moved everything to the new account. Then, I forgot to delete the saved passwords in the Edge. So, a few months later, they tried again because the EDGE is also leaky. MSFT controls you, you do not control MSFT. Now, I use only Firefox where I use their password manager that you control, not Firefox. In fact, I set up a new computer today and could not get my passwords transferred there. I do not need because that computer will be connected to the TV using my homework without any cable to watch streaming services (the future). I already have several channels free streaming services, like ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CNN, and some other stuff—all free. We are paying Cable service only for internet and not TV anymore. Technology kills its own inventions, and that is what I did to make a living in my working years here and elsewhere, i.e. to kill my own previous electronic circuit with a new electronic circuit.
Now you should know why NASDAQ went down so much and so quickly.
Add/Edit: We get a lot of entertainment in my mother tongue from the days of my growing up – all free from YouTube. My wife watches her soaps too. We do not need even a big screen TV anymore – I have 4 Samsung QLED sitting in my house. You can use your phone and watch everything, just 12-18 inches away. Yet, I bought the new computer to stream to TV, although the TV also has several Apps.
So did they get into your accounts, or just tried unsuccessfully? Did they have your full credentials (user/passwd)? Otherwise, how do you know "they" got it through Chrome?
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Post by Fearchar on Dec 2, 2022 2:54:29 GMT
ECE Prof, Thank-you. I use Chrome, so now I'm especially concerned. I not doubting the problem, but I really don't understand how they got your passwords. Could it have been from a phishing attack?
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Post by Fearchar on Dec 2, 2022 2:57:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2022 3:00:22 GMT
This evening I started the change to premium email and while reading the disclosures saw that synced email accounts are not security protected, and I have two of those. My daughter is back in town and maybe she can help. I have been very close to being robbed by security risks—Chrome and Edge. I use only FF. All my email logins, account logins (FIDO, Vanguard, Chase, Amazon, Capital One,..) require 2 FA, and I need to get a code in my phone(s) and be able to log in. It is a free service. Get a cheap phone, and it costs only $10/month for unlimited calls and texts, and 1 GB data. I do not need data because I have unlimited data from the internet. But, what the heck? I have $40/month full service T-Mobile with an iPhone. T-Mobile has a satellite near my home in the hill, somewhere here. I would suggest using a password keeper like lastpast or similar software and create complicated passwords and change the passwords regularly. Never save your passwords in the browser. Also when you use a tab on browser close it and open another one for next site, make this a habit. And off course use 2 FA for logins, it is a hassle but well worth with all the stuff that is going on. I recently found out that someone is using my SSN and there is nothing I can do except safe guard the information as much as I can. I called SSN office and they just shrug the whole conversation, would not do anything. I have a pin on my taxes, all my credit is frozen. Every transaction that comes out of my banks I get a text. I also locked my SSN so someone does not go find work under my SSN even though I am retired. |
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Post by Fearchar on Dec 2, 2022 3:28:57 GMT
I was something of an identity theft victim too.
Back in 2017 something like over 150 million SS numbers were stolen from Equifax along with other information.
That data is being shared by crooks who are trying to piece it all together.
Last year a regional Bank started to allow people to open up accounts on line without a deposit.
So, the crooks would open these accounts and over draw $45 or so.
I was one of the people they used and out of the blue was mailed information about a new account.
A few weeks later, I got the over draft notice.
The bank was the actual victim since I didn't pay up.
They also put a stop to allowing people to open accounts on-line.
I've placed a fraud notice with the Equifax and the Gov't.
About Chrome....
I just updated Chrome.
Firefox I notice, updates automatically which is a plus.
Maybe Chrome does too, but I'll have to look more for that setting.
I also had Chrome do a security scan and everything is fine.
Also, both Chrome and Firefox have Low, Standard and Higher security level settings.
I guess it's a decision each of us needs to make as to how secure to set our browers.
I don't used Edge very much at home.
At work it's another story.
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Post by ECE Prof on Dec 2, 2022 15:48:27 GMT
“ I have a pin on my taxes, all my credit is frozen. Every transaction that comes out of my banks I get a text. I also locked my SSN so someone does not go find work under my SSN even though I am retired. “
The year I retired (2008), it happened in my university. One university employee who had access to the payroll sold all our SSN to someone. I had to freeze my credits with Equifax for 6 months. The University paid for it. The university allowed him to take voluntary retirement. No charges, nothing.
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Post by habsui on Dec 2, 2022 17:48:49 GMT
“ I have a pin on my taxes, all my credit is frozen. Every transaction that comes out of my banks I get a text. I also locked my SSN so someone does not go find work under my SSN even though I am retired. “ The year I retired (2008), it happened in my university. One university employee who had access to the payroll sold all our SSN to someone. I had to freeze my credits with Equifax for 6 months. The University paid for it. The university allowed him to take voluntary retirement. No charges, nothing. So no response to the serious question whether your passwords were truly leaked, and how you know this ?? |
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Post by bb2 on Dec 2, 2022 18:59:30 GMT
I find free MSFT mail does a much better job at weeding out junk and Apple. But I don't understand how mail works. I thought my provider, Comcast, was doing the junk weeding.
I use a dedicated laptop for all financial stuff. No email, no browsing but for the specific financial websites and there are just two of them. Bank and broker. 2FA of course.
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