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Post by chang on Jan 28, 2024 14:27:37 GMT
This is really quite sad, when the US used to, could, and should be the undisputed leader of global nuclear energy development. www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2024/01/25/the-us-is-losing-the-nuclear-energy-race-to-russia-and-china/amp/ "This decline is by choice. The US certainly used to have the technical and financial resources to compete with Russia and China in these fields, but the political will to pursue nuclear power (despite its overwhelmingly green characteristics (zero CO2 emissions, and its exemplary safety record in North America) has been lacking. The notorious Three Mile Island accident in 1979, killed, injured, irradiated, or harmed zero people. Meanwhile, ballooning costs and the nightmare that is America's byzantine environmental review and permitting processes resulted in the last nuclear power plant arriving 7 years late and 17 billion dollars over budget. It's little surprise the U.S. is falling behind in many nuclear areas...
"Building a new reactor is uniquely difficult in the United States due to its own self-imposed bureaucratic straight jacket. It takes an average 3.2 years to generate an environmental impact statement (EIS) for a new reactor – that is generate, not process. There are then years of additional Nuclear Regulatory Commission hearings to officially license any project. None of these concern safety – safety inspections occur independently of this process and largely function as designed, lasting only months. Then, years of public hearings susceptible and often systematically captured by private interests and militant environmentalists further delays construction, forcing the U.S. to burn coal and natural gas instead of the clean atom."
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Post by archer on Jan 28, 2024 15:17:23 GMT
Sadder still is that the generating and processing environmental impact statements is similar to the watching sports thread we have going. How much of that 7 years is actively working on the statements vs dead time? I find it hard to believe that these statements take almost as much work as acquiring an 8 year college education.
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Post by FD1000 on Jan 29, 2024 12:38:16 GMT
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Post by Chahta on Jan 29, 2024 15:19:08 GMT
We are losing sight of the forest for single trees. Don't worry we'll get all the vacant land covered with wind farms soon.
Exactly what are the smartest people we have working on these days?
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Post by bizman on Jan 29, 2024 15:53:12 GMT
It is tragic that even the "party of science" can't seem to make rational judgments on subjects like this.
The one thing that we have going for us is the bunch of geniuses and capital attracted to Silicon Valley, the place and the abstraction.
Marc Andreesen, Bill Gates, and compadres are our best, and maybe only, hope for innovating out of a bunch of problems. Hopefully Lina Khan and the rest of the Luddites and anti-capitalists won't keep them from keeping civilization on track.
As for all of the wind farms, they won't even be able to build all of the transmission wires to connect them to the grid because of the impossibility of permitting hoops and such to jump through. Amazing how the regulatory state has even ground the dreamed-of renewable future to a practical halt.
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Post by richardsok on Jan 29, 2024 16:35:08 GMT
It is tragic that even the "party of science" can't seem to make rational judgments on subjects like this. The one thing that we have going for us is the bunch of geniuses and capital attracted to Silicon Valley, the place and the abstraction. Marc Andreesen, Bill Gates, and compadres are our best, and maybe only, hope for innovating out of a bunch of problems. Hopefully Lina Khan and the rest of the Luddites and anti-capitalists won't keep them from keeping civilization on track. As for all of the wind farms, they won't even be able to build all of the transmission wires to connect them to the grid because of the impossibility of permitting hoops and such to jump through. Amazing how the regulatory state has even ground the dreamed-of renewable future to a practical halt. Just the other day I touched on this topic in reviewing J Diamond's book "Collapse" and characteristic failures of dying societies: the inability to recognize problems that are slow but inexorable in their rise -- or the failure of rigid, sclerotic societies to ACT on those problems even after they are well known. Here's three: failure to build nuclear power even while we are encouraging electric vehicles, failure to address massive & growing debts -- even as the crisis is laid before us every single day, and refusal to stem hordes of military-age males pouring across our borders (Arms for Ukraine's and Israel's borders, but none for our own.). I could go on, but why bother? You have your MAGA and your "Never Trump" obsessives, and no one among them is serious about problems. I follow the posts of an old high school classmate -- very bright guy -- (better grades than I ever had, and more popular too). Well, he posts EVERY DAY, passing on links and quotes continuously on one topic -- the awfulness of Trump. (I don;t necessarily disagree with the guy, but the energy, focus and fixation are, well, daunting. That's his topic, day after day. Deficit? What deficit? Back to Trump/Satan/Hitler/Nazi/End-of-Democracy/Maga Fascist Dolts. I agree neither party is serious about curbing debt -- the Left will just spend more and DT will cut taxes again in the folly we can grow our way out of the mess. Reagan tried it with the notion less tax revenue would "starve the beast" but spending just continued growing anyway -- and debt mushroomed again. I'd contribute something mildly critical suggesting we address real problems once in a while, but I haven't the energy to engage the torrent of hostility I'd call down on myself. Better to remain incognito when the true believers have their momentum. And real problems fester. Sad? I don't think the failures are sad at all. The words I'd use are more like frustrating, exasperating, enraging, depressing.
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Post by johntaylor on Feb 3, 2024 14:34:31 GMT
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