galeno
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Post by galeno on Aug 24, 2021 14:00:02 GMT
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Post by acksurf on Aug 24, 2021 14:03:52 GMT
No.
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Post by Chahta on Aug 24, 2021 14:56:03 GMT
Not really
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Post by cactusjack on Aug 24, 2021 15:05:51 GMT
No. Though I am sure it makes a lot of bucks for the guys pushing it.
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Post by rhythmmethod on Aug 24, 2021 15:20:56 GMT
Not really. I'd rather ride the wave of investing and then donate to causes I support, which often align with ESG funds.
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Post by helmut on Aug 24, 2021 15:54:53 GMT
Are you kidding? I live in Houston where a major part of our economy depends on energy and I have two sons that make their living in the oil patch.
Politicians create problems so they can campaign against them and Woke politics are a prime example. I can see an effort to redistribute wealth when I see it.
helmut
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Post by Chahta on Aug 24, 2021 19:27:56 GMT
I was curious and retrieved this from M* FlexShares STOXX US ESG Select ETF ESG YTD - 20.67 2020 - 20.78 2019 - 20.78 ouch! That is the problem with ESG. |
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bf22
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Post by bf22 on Aug 24, 2021 19:40:28 GMT
I was curious and retrieved this from M* FlexShares STOXX US ESG Select ETF ESG YTD - 20.67 2020 - 20.78 2019 - 20.78 ouch! That is the problem with ESG. I believe this should read, for ESG:
YTD - 20.67%
2020 - 20.78%
2019 - 31.78%
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Post by Chahta on Aug 24, 2021 20:31:02 GMT
ouch! That is the problem with ESG. I believe this should read, for ESG:
YTD - 20.67%
2020 - 20.78%
2019 - 31.78%
whoops misread the “-“ as negative. |
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galeno
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Post by galeno on Aug 25, 2021 1:38:48 GMT
Just pathetic.
"YTD - 20.67%
2020 - 20.78%
2019 - 31.78%"
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bf22
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Post by bf22 on Aug 25, 2021 6:55:55 GMT
Just pathetic. "YTD - 20.67% 2020 - 20.78% 2019 - 31.78%" What's pathetic about:
YTD = 20.67%
2020 = 20.78%
2019 = 31.78%
If you look at the holdings of ESG, it's easy to see why the results were good.
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Post by Norbert on Aug 25, 2021 7:24:52 GMT
If you're serious about Woke investing, you must do more than just own a fund with the word "sustainable" in the name. My ideas:
- Put at least 50% of your money into companies owned and run by Black and Non-binary persons;
- Never invest in Israel, which is an apartheid nation; better to invest in Islamic countries, starting with Afghanistan and Iran. OK, Osama Bin Laden may have gone too far, but at least he wasn't an Islamophobe;
- The company name should not start with the letter "N".
People of color and non-binary orientation have been suffering at the hands of the white patriarchy for centuries. Try walking in the shoes of oppressed persons to see how tough it is!
Me, I identify as a bisexual, mixed race women from Nigeria. You wouldn't believe the reactions I get when I explain this to shopkeepers and pedestrians here in France.
Or, as I recite Critical Race Theory to them, pointing out the guilt they should feel because they're privileged whites. The other day a man got so upset by my explanations that he started screaming at me and moved to a different seat. I think he just needed to be alone to think about his failings.
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galeno
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Post by galeno on Aug 25, 2021 16:21:02 GMT
"- The company name should not start with the letter "N"."
Anti-woke investors we SHOULD boycott all companies that begin with the letters LGBTQAIP.
It's UNFAIR that 4% of the population has grabbed 30% of the alphabet.
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Post by bf22 on Aug 26, 2021 3:55:29 GMT
If you're serious about Woke investing, you must do more than just own a fund with the word "sustainable" in the name. My ideas: - Put at least 50% of your money into companies owned and run by Black and Non-binary persons; - Never invest in Israel, which is an apartheid nation; better to invest in Islamic countries, starting with Afghanistan and Iran. OK, Osama Bin Laden may have gone too far, but at least he wasn't an Islamophobe; - The company name should not start with the letter "N". People of color and non-binary orientation have been suffering at the hands of the white patriarchy for centuries. Try walking in the shoes of oppressed persons to see how tough it is! Me, I identify as a bisexual, mixed race women from Nigeria. You wouldn't believe the reactions I get when I explain this to shopkeepers and pedestrians here in France. Or, as I recite Critical Race Theory to them, pointing out the guilt they should feel because they're privileged whites. The other day a man got so upset by my explanations that he started screaming at me and moved to a different seat. I think he just needed to be alone to think about his failings. I didn't realize that you are from Nigeria... |
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Post by chang on Aug 26, 2021 4:46:31 GMT
I didn't realize that you are from Nigeria... He identifies as Nigerian. Genetically he may or may not be Nigerian, but that's irrelevant, isn't it? These days, what matters (e.g., if you need to go to a public bathroom) is what you identify as. |
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Post by Chahta on Aug 26, 2021 5:06:23 GMT
I’m so confused …….
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Post by Norbert on Aug 26, 2021 7:46:24 GMT
If you're serious about Woke investing, you must do more than just own a fund with the word "sustainable" in the name. My ideas: - Put at least 50% of your money into companies owned and run by Black and Non-binary persons; - Never invest in Israel, which is an apartheid nation; better to invest in Islamic countries, starting with Afghanistan and Iran. OK, Osama Bin Laden may have gone too far, but at least he wasn't an Islamophobe; - The company name should not start with the letter "N". People of color and non-binary orientation have been suffering at the hands of the white patriarchy for centuries. Try walking in the shoes of oppressed persons to see how tough it is! Me, I identify as a bisexual, mixed race women from Nigeria. You wouldn't believe the reactions I get when I explain this to shopkeepers and pedestrians here in France. Or, as I recite Critical Race Theory to them, pointing out the guilt they should feel because they're privileged whites. The other day a man got so upset by my explanations that he started screaming at me and moved to a different seat. I think he just needed to be alone to think about his failings. I didn't realize that you are from Nigeria...
Don't be silly. I only worked there with an oil company for a while.
The great thing about being Woke is that you can be anyone you want to be. Depending on my mood, I sometimes identify as a snow leopard or as the King of England. Meghan Markle inspired me. Going forward, I would like to be addressed as "Lord Norbert"; my preferred pronoun is "His Majesty".
OK, my career in Big Oil may not seem to fit well with my Woke focus on a Green New Deal. But, that's just another advantage of being Woke: there doesn't need to be any connection between what you say and what you actually do. Al Gore is my role model on that front.
Seriously though, it's Meghan Markle that I respect the most. She married into the British royal family, is filthy rich, lives in a mansion in Montecito, treasures her "Duchess" title, but has managed to sell herself as the poor suffering victim of the White Patriarchy. Even President Biden expressed sympathy for her pain. Brilliant! She has nailed the Woke dollar better than anyone.
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Post by chang on Aug 26, 2021 8:46:04 GMT
You want to really be confused? Try and figure out how intersectional you are.  |
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Post by Chahta on Aug 26, 2021 17:40:33 GMT
You want to really be confused? Try and figure out how intersectional you are. Best I can figure I am on the Educationalism line above the Domination line. But then again I am old so I am being pulled below the Domination line. Looking again my Centroid is above the Domination line as a result of the form made by the locust of points as they land on each line. So I am still confused who I am. |
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galeno
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Post by galeno on Aug 27, 2021 1:02:33 GMT
"So I am still confused who I am."
Why?
You can self-identify as anything you wish.
Right now I'm non-binary, gender fluid, asian women. My preferred pronoun is
"kung-u".
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Post by BearMkt on Aug 27, 2021 16:47:20 GMT
You want to really be confused? Try and figure out how intersectional you are. Meanwhile the U.S. Military is being indoctrinated with this thinking. Diversity has become more important that the mission itself. |
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Post by Chahta on Aug 27, 2021 18:58:03 GMT
You want to really be confused? Try and figure out how intersectional you are. Meanwhile the U.S. Military is being indoctrinated with this thinking. Diversity has become more important that the mission itself. It was very sad to see that squared-jaw, hulking figure of a military officer with ribbons up the wazoo giving spin on the evacuation. See what you mean. |
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Post by BearMkt on Aug 28, 2021 0:49:44 GMT
Meanwhile the U.S. Military is being indoctrinated with this thinking. Diversity has become more important that the mission itself. It was very sad to see that squared-jaw, hulking figure of a military officer with ribbons up the wazoo giving spin on the evacuation. See what you mean. It's beyond sad to me...... |
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Post by Norbert on Aug 28, 2021 6:57:34 GMT
You want to really be confused? Try and figure out how intersectional you are. Meanwhile the U.S. Military is being indoctrinated with this thinking. Diversity has become more important that the mission itself. Well, I don't know. In my view the Chinese and the Russians will be quite fearful of confronting a Woke adversary having a correctly diversified platoon demographic with an optimized racial and gender profile. N. |
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Post by BearMkt on Aug 28, 2021 15:32:31 GMT
Meanwhile the U.S. Military is being indoctrinated with this thinking. Diversity has become more important that the mission itself. Well, I don't know. In my view the Chinese and the Russians will be quite fearful of confronting a Woke adversary having a correctly diversified platoon demographic with an optimized racial and gender profile. N. I knew there had to be a military strategy around it! |
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Post by johntaylor on Sept 19, 2021 13:44:36 GMT
Thoroughly modern (General) Milley...
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